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adhering to correct doctrine and proper practices should be the focus in our lives. What Is An Independent Fundamental Baptist? He showed me a . Some IFB are good fellowships, some Plymouth Brethren Open) are good fellowships..etc. We have the freedom to give as much as we like, without any compulsion. Any idiot can do that. Christs death ushured in teh New Covenant where ceremonial law for the remission of sin is replaced with grace and mercy. I think it is true that God certainly does choose people and draw them to Himself. The local pastor is the shepherd (Heb. 53, Cornhill, 1813, Fundamental Baptist CD ROM Library, 1701 Harns Rd. Thats kind of like being an American and never knowing enough about the nations beginnings to be able to make an intelligent decision about whether some politician is leading us away from freedom. Its the phraseology itself that one calls into question as being logical or illogical. No one in USA at least (whether IFB, CALVARLY CHAPEL, MOST CHURCHES, etc) tithe on all belongings at they practiced thier & our money/wealth/argicultural exchange & system is very different. We all make mistakes, the only thing we can do is apologize and attempt to do better. No one I have ever talked to or debated can show me that money is ever to be considered a tithe. Independent Fundamental Churches of America, https://www.britannica.com/topic/Independent-Fundamental-Churches-of-America, Official Site of IFCA International, Grandville, Michigan, United States. The list is endless. Thomas Gould, died in 1675 an untimely death, partially because of his having his health broken by several long imprisonments. The word Fundamental means that the Baptist church uses the New Testament strictly as its authority for faith (doctrine) and practice. The only time I ever dressed up was for Job interviews. Patrick was born in Scotland in 360 AD and sold into slavery at age sixteen and carried to Ireland. Biblical Mandate for BaptistDeception.com. Im not sure about this one. You are right, Jesus came to fulfill the law. The way a Christian dresses should be governed by their love for Christ and other people, not by rules imposed by a religious authority to make one look righteous. Many Protestant denominations still hold to the writings of their church fathers as a source of church doctrine and have never accepted the Bible as their sole source of teachings for their faith and practice, which is a foundational teaching of Catholicism. Thats why Paul advocated free will offerings (see 2 Corinthians 9). All others miss-use the name. http://www.wvec.com/news/local/INSIDE-A-NAKED-CHURCH-85062392.html. They are worlds apart. Desire your best & healing in Lord Jesus if not. Ok how about some peace Blessed are the peacemakers I apologize for my abrasive writing style and did not purposely write to offend you, but make no mistake, someone can be dunked until they know every minnow by name, but that doesnt make them saved. A couple of things. He continued to read the New Testament, and became fully aware that infant baptism, sprinkling for baptism, and allowing unsaved people to be members of the church was not Scriptural. Treated like everywhere else been. The IFBs always point fingers at the Catholics, but the Baptist faith is loaded with the traditions of men, I guess its kind of hard to escape. The word Independent means that the church is not a member of any council, convention or is a part of any hierarchy outside the local congregation. Something else to note here, what were they tithing? No Law we are obligated to in the sense they have any weight of sins being dealt withfor Jesus done away with sins. (II Peter 1:20) Baptist believe you do not have to be a Baptist in order to be saved and have eternal life, but a person must believe the Gospel as revealed in the New Testament. Offers of religious liberty drew many Baptists to settle in New Jersey. Tithing preceded the OT Law. It stands for devotion and a strict obedience to God and his commandments. Tithing is no longer a requirement and God doesnt not require a tithe for obedience as is preached in todays churches. We should stand out because we are different. Also, I support tithing personally. It originally applied through the 1700s to Lutherans, and Anglicans. I would directly compare doctrine and practices using scripture to make the assertion which is correct. I dont know awhole lot about the Episcopal church, but Im sure there are some wonderful folks there. History records the members of this Baptist church went back to England or remained in Holland and joined Mennonites. Unaccountable. Up to this time Williams was not a Baptist. Today we are excited to announce Independent Baptist Churches. He then began to ask me questions and we had a good conversation centered around God from there on. If your church does teach the following then watch out, you are probably in a manipulating extreme IFB church situation. I believe it is almost impossible to grow to a complete relationship with God without knowing his nature. Comprized of many nationalities and backgrounds, the secret of successat CR, is that this is a Bible Chuch revolving around King Jesus. Ok so he starts attempting to pull the heart strings about loved ones that you are around daily, and if you are telling them enough about getting saved etc. I believe every one should realize that all is God & if a saint desires to put a tenth to honor God & furthering His kingdom or whatver portion as He desiresthat s a noble act between God & Himself. We use our monetary resources alone. Like friends of my son who were in Mexico recently. . I think I already addressed that point. The pastor's name is Kevin Draganac. Mostly because that had nothing to do with my question. 1 Timothy 5:17 Deception, 61. Of all my favorite things to do now that Im out of that situation, is raise my hands and praise my precious Saviour when He stirs my heart. I understand what you are saying about these kind of messages with strong emotional appeals. Even some TV evangelists have referred to themselves as being fundamentalist. How would the IFB Churches differ from other churches that teach first century, new testament doctrine? By 1626, the churches had grown from one, to five churches and by 1644 there were forty congregations. You should tithe, but if you dont thats between you and the Lord. If you dont already, try it some time. Even the Roman Catholic Church which boasts of his unbroken history cannot prove an unbroken line of churches earlier than the Third Century, and what Catholicism teaches today in no way resembles what the New Testament teaches or what the early churches believed and practiced. This is the largest christian gathering in the U.S. attracting more than 100,000 last year. 1:6-10, 1 Tim. The form is submitted along with the recommendations of other Calvary Chapel clergymen. No tithing is not mandated, no good work is..just as no good work can save us. A comprehensive Independent Baptist Church Directory listing over 8000 churches. IndependentBaptist.com was founded in an attempt to bring back the principles that lifted our movement in the 60's and 70's and that need to be revived in this day. Tithing was never required for anyone except Jews who lived under the Mosaic economy. when the apostle Peter was fishing he stripped and was naked while he was fishing (John 21:7). The influx of these falsely converted pagans is one reason Roman Catholicism came to have so many idolatrous and pagan beliefs. America needs great Independent Baptist churches again. Updates? If it isnt to much trouble please explain your assertion. My Sunday school teacher and I have discussed the music issue and we both agree that there is nothng wrong with contemporary Christian music (I do believe some of it lifts up flesh rather than Jesus, though). Many of the TV evangelists and all of the Charismatic and Pentecostal churches promote teachings which are not Biblical. This church had no ties to anyone or any other church, yet this was a Baptist church as much as any Baptist church ever was. The Anabaptists were mostly a God-fearing group of people. About this time the Puritans were also becoming strong in England. What gets my goat on this style of preaching is that as much as these baptists act as though they follow nothing but the scripture, it seems they dont read it or study it much. Knolleys was imprisoned many times and suffered at the hands of the State Church. I am not in favor of tactics that play on peoples emotions so as to secure a visible result. LEARN MORE ABOUT THE DANGERS OF THE MODERNIST CHURCH It is the Word of God, the Bible, that makes up what is a real and true church! This is not to say there were no Baptists in Britain earlier, but that this began a line of churches whose history can be traced. We had an elderly woman that lifted her hands and shouted to the Lord the entire service before she went home to be with Him. You CANNOT be loving either if you are refusing to render unto the Lord that which is his, and this includes tithing. These worldly churches still call themselves Baptists but in fact they do not believe or practice what true Baptists have historically believed and more importantly what the Word of God says. That shows your lack of emotional maturity. Baptist also believe the Bible interprets itself, and that Christ is the only head of the church. BTW, my Church of Christ neighbor and I were good friends, and looked out for each other. Any church fellowship that encourages avoiding another Christian denomination/fellowship, even if they uphold & believe these, b/c they are not of the same denomination are in gross error & a cult. My point is that Tithing is good since Jesus says they should not have left it undone. . IFCA International was founded in 1930 as the Independent Fundamental Churches of America in response to the growing apostasy within the major denominations. I have to tell you, Lynne, if you want to keep one part of the law, without keeping the rest of the law, you are guilty of breaking the whole thing. Henry Jacob. Calvary Chapels do not believe that baptism is necessary for membership in a local assembly. He is much better at it than we are. There are plenty of church members that disagree with the preacher on many topics. If the apostle Peter wanted to show up to Church one day while he was stripped and naked he would probably not be allowed in most Churches unless he put on some clothes. My sister left the church years ago and is living in sin (even by the standards of other denominations so please dont take it out of context), but I talk to her every day. For instance, if I was regularly wearing a swim suit or Scooby Doo costume to any Church I would probably be asked to Change into something more appropriate. Believers are not set apart by the clothing they wear so much as their conduct, character, and lifestyle. Ive experienced this kind of power over and over again in the church. (I do love acapella singing, btw.). Nowhere in the Bible do I see that Christians are recognized by their clothing. Hope that last wasnt too much personal info. Reasons for NOT Accepting the KJV as Gods Preserved Word A response to Pastor James Melton, 71. A tithe was to be given by Jews under law to a levitical priest and as far as I can tell, it was always a product from the land, be it animals or some sort of plant life. The New Testament teaches that Christ is the head of the church,(Eph. Our Mission Is to help you find a bible believing church, an Independent Fundamental Baptist Church, that seeks to serve and honor the Lord Jesus Christ. In 1700, a Baptist minister, William Rhodes began to hold meetings on Long Island and in 1724 organized the first Baptist church there. He, however, continued to preach by holding services in his own home. Firstly, they take a denominational name: Baptist. Ivor Church is the only one I know of where you can virtually come as you are. This is Bible 101 stuff. , Oak Harbor, Washington 98277). So, IT IS in the New Testament! In 1684, a Baptist church in Maine seeking greater religious liberty was relocated to Charleston, South Carolina. The first church was founded there in 1688, in Middletown and was made up of many who had fled persecution in the other colonies. As with any true New Testament church, its validity as a true church approved of God, does not, nor or ever did rest on its name or upon a succession of churches, but on its adherence to the principles of Gods Word. I liken this to attending a Bible study without your Bible. Listening To The Critics A Response To James Ach, 56. WHAT IS AN INDEPENDENT FUNDAMENTAL BAPTIST CHURCH? Thus, resolving to follow the Lords commands in truth, in March, 1639 he formed the first Baptist church on American soil. I read what you wrote, thats why I replied with what I wrote. God does not lead His children by rules. They will not engage in joint meetings, or evangelistic endeavors, with Protestants, Catholics, or other doctrinally unsound church groups, who do not hold to the fundamental teachings of the New Testament. I have to chuckle every time I think about a comment our former IFB pastor said about lifestyle evangelism as he puts it. In determining who were the first Baptists, you must first identify who you are referring to. John was Gods true prophet and the forerunner of the Messiah Jesus Christ, but he was not a part of the dispensation of the institution of the local church. http://www.av1611.org/ this web site is dial-the-truth ministries, but I call them dial-the-. Although, many Protestants returned in part to a belief in the Bible as their authority for their faith and practice, not one of them EVER completely left all the doctrinal errors and false teachings of the apostate Roman Catholic church. Baptists, including IFB Baptists, are all deceived. Is this really what youre doing here? Jesus statement to the Pharisees about tithing would not apply to you because you are not a Jew under the Mosaic Law. He said from the pulpit, No one ever asked me if I was a Christian while out in public! Im thinking thats not a good thing. The grace economy is a much superior way to live a life pleasing to God. 6.) Dress codes are not the problems. If someone wanted to Tithe down to a tenth of all they owned & sell or give value of itIm sure they could. Will you join us? Jesus quoted the old testament. Visited Calvarly Chapel her in Rosedale areahas tith online but what they view is unclear. As long as they go to a God fearing church that believes in Jesus Christ and they themselves are not rebelling against God then it would not hurt my feelings if they went to Southern Baptist or Methodist churches. Even the enemies of the Baptists openly recognize their zeal for the Word of God. Have been over twenty years, and have attended probably ten or more IFB churches here in Ohio and elsewhere, and I have never met an IFB pastor who didnt include scriptures from the Old Testament as well as the New Testament, in his sermons. My best friend who professes to be Christian (she attends a Southern Baptist church), is dating an evolutionist and she tells me that religion is not high up on her criteria for dating and marriage yet she will call me, upset, and say that her boyfriend is hasseling her about her faith. I believe the following is an accurate list of Fundamentals, but if anyone sees erro please inform us & esp with Scripture. KJV Bibles are the best translations because they do not take out the blood of Jesus from scripture as the other versions along with other things. It lead me down a road that took me farther away from God rather than closer. Also, you keep mentioning Jesus statement about not leaving tithing undone. 2. I hope you can forgive me for perpetuating those stumbling blocks. Ok, so Im pretty sure you are referring to the Church of Christ that was founded by good ol Thomas Campbell (1763-1854) He was a fine Scottish Presbyterian who left Ireland to come to western PA. in 1807. For example, G.L. Benedict in his history of the Baptists states the Gospel was preached in Britain within sixty years of the Lords return to heaven. My question would be: When has anyone ever given 10% to GOD. It more often then none goes to the support building, supplies, salaries of a ministry under the leadership of usually a man., Excellent book on the subject is Should the Church Teach Tithing by Russell Kelly, http://www.truthforfree.com/files/PDF/REK-Tithing3.pdf. It is an important part of the church. One can be feed, clothed , housed & grow up lost & will die but the Gospel offers Eternal Life! I do hope that your eyes will be opened up soon because keeping the law will not grant you entrance into heaven. The point is the name Baptist in the beginning was used to designate a true New Testament assembly that was biblically sound. Because of persecution by the Anglican church of all who disagreed with it and who refused to agree to its authority, John Smyth had to flee England. They were a New Testament church, not because of a succession of churches or men, but because they formed their church on the principles of the New Testament. 17 And if he shall neglect to hear them, tell it unto the church: but if he neglect to hear the church, let him be unto thee as an heathen man . None of us that I know of follow his every word like it was the Gospel truth. 3:1-16) However, some Independent Baptist churches do not accept that the word "officer" is the proper biblical term to be used and particularly does not apply to deacons. My brother attends an IFB church. I saw Jesus there and the Holy Spirit! For IFB churches, most use this as a baseline in their giving with II Cor 9:7 for guiding in the heart of giving. It was organized in Cicero, Illinois, U.S., in June 1930 as the successor to the American Conference of Undenominational Churches. Most of the Anabaptists successors became the Mennonites, Amish and Quakers. Is it based on the individual church or whole congregations? They were intolerant to anyone who did not agree to the authority of the Puritan church, which was supported by a governmental church tax of all the people. List your KJV Bible Believing Church for FREE! He had a few different views and was eventually censured (kicked-out) from the Presbyterian church in 1809, so he eventually started his own church. However, let no one think little of the name of Baptist for it is the name that most has identified those individuals and churches who have uncompromisingly stood on the Word of God. Hah Im really the only reply to this incredible read?! Note..I, no particular denomination. Also in regards to the restcommon sense is you give according to how you deal with your values ,etc. What does this have to do with our discussion? Anyone not holding Episcopal ordination was forbade to hold services. 10 Myths About the King James Version, 68. Certainly we are not responsible for people we never have an opportunity to witness to. Dont misunderstand, I believe we are to preach and testify, but, from what I understand no ones blood will be on my hands if they wind up in Hell. Knolleys after two years returned to England at the request of his father. 5) shun folks that have left the church

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